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How to Succeed as an Early Adopter: Interview with Genentech CIO Todd Pierce

This is Part Two of my interview with Todd Pierce, CIO of Genentech. In Part One, we spoke about effective communication.

Abbie Lundberg: You were an early adopter on a pretty large scale for iPhones. What was the business case for that?

 

 

Genentech CIO Todd Pierce

Genentech CIO Todd Pierce

Todd Pierce: The business case for me has always been mobility. It’s one of the most important mega-trends of the last six, seven years. [The iPhone was] smaller, higher functioning, with greater reach – a laptop in your pocket – and oh, by the way, it does an application that everybody has to have called telephone. And then when I saw the touch-screen interface, I said, “This is it.” Because I had been on the Newton, I’d been in on the first Palm, we had lots of Treos, I’ve used every HP device that they had made for the last nine years in that area. And dumping the stylus and going with the finger, I said, this is it. Unbelievable.

So you had that personal revelation. How about the rest of the organization? Who did you have to convince?

The end-user management concern was, is this a toy? Is this frivolous… is this just spending dad’s money? Which was the same thing, by the way, when the Blackberry first came out – there was the question then, like, wow, that’s a lot of money. Who needs to do e-mail real time anyway? It’s better to just do it in the evening, or when you’re at your desk. So, there’s frequently the concern, are we signing up for something just because its cool… are we just wasting our money?

The way you answer that is, well, let’s not prejudge something. Let’s do an experiment. So we did an experiment with initially 120 people. We got a mix of users. One group were heavy Blackberry users – because one question was, why change? Is it going to do anything that a Blackberry doesn’t do? By that time we had 5,000 Blackberry’s. And at that time, it looked like the iPhone was more expensive. So, we got a mix of people who loved the Blackberry and understood the value of mobility and people who were not Blackberry users. They had tried it, but didn’t like it. Those were our two segments. And I was blown away by the feedback.

Overwhelmingly – and now it’s going to be memory recall – something like 90 percent of hardcore Blackberry users preferred the iPhone, which surprised me. Originally when we thought about mobility in these devices, we thought e-mail. What we didn’t fully appreciate was it’s about the web. E-mail is 1980s, the web is now. To have a full-feature web experience on this device was revolutionary. The touch screen, the gesturing, allowed you to navigate – we didn’t have to do WAP or all of this other stuff that really narrows down the amount of content that you can get. The entire web is truly available. That also got our non-Blackberry people, people who didn’t like e-mail.

Originally I thought the lack of push e-mail would be a problem. iPhones have that now, but they didn’t at the time. One of the reasons people liked their Blackberry’s was [laughs] it’s kind of a stimulus to get interrupted every five seconds as the e-mails come in. You never get bored. So what won us over on e-mail was being able to read attachments: the ability to zoom in, roam around. So many of the Blackberry attachments were just unreadable – it was completely worthless. Now you had a device that lets you actually read the attachments.

The business case is mobility. The breakthrough for iPhone turned out to be the web and really being able to navigate through rich, dense attachments.

I don’t know why there aren’t IT executives all across America marching in the streets, burning their software licenses and saying, “let my people go.” I mean, this is the promised land.

A lot of people were concerned about security early on. What risks had to be mitigated at that point, and how did you deal with that?

There are all kinds of ways to have accidental disclosure of information. The majority is through employees: sending information to the wrong people, auto complete on e-mail addresses. [It’s important] not to kill something new for the marginal case when we’re already taking quite a bit of risk. Functioning in the world requires risk, getting in your car and driving to work is very risky. It’s just reminding people that this wasn’t any more risky than other things we were doing. And then it’s the benefit. One of the things that we found was that we got, on average, an hour more work out of everyone that had an iPhone per day. That is enormous, and you get that because people appreciate the ease of use and mobility.

There’s a psychological aspect to all this. We’re moving away from the paternalistic approach to IT – you know: “we’re the IT Department, we’re 10 years behind where you are, but we know best.” We hire smart people and we give them the best tools. We let them have admin rights to their computers. It’s getting out of that mainframe mentality of closed networks and all that stuff and really shaking that off.

One of the things that I said to my staff was, I do all of my banking online. All my money, which I care a lot more about than my e-mail at work, I do it all online. I can’t tell you the last time I went into a bank, met a banker…. So, if I pay all my bills, do all of my transactions on the internet, why can’t I approve an SAP shopping cart on the internet? Our job as IT professionals is to figure out how to mitigate the impact of that. So we did. We put in Junipers, we put in scanning and filtering and other things to help with that. We educated employees, and then we worked with Apple on, hey, here are features that we want that will continue to improve this. And not being late to go up the innovation curve because something’s not perfect. When it comes to innovation, don’t let perfect be the enemy of good.

I have probably 30 apps that I have written for the iPhone. If I had waited until release 3.0, which was the one that had all the enterprise features – push e-mail and VPN native support, and all the things that corporations said they couldn’t live without – that was two years into the product. Well, I’m two years down the road. It’s a better mousetrap. My workforce got the advantages sooner, and we’ve moved up the learning curve. We have our own app store now – a Genentech app store – with our own apps. We’ve integrated it with various things.

And we give employees a choice. Here we had over 5,000 Blackberry’s. People loved it; it was one of our top-rated devices. We did this little trial and said, great, we’re going to add it to our portfolio of products. We didn’t promote it, we didn’t say, this is better than that; we just put it out there. Today we have over 5,000 iPhones and about 1,500 Blackberry’s.

Let’s talk about Google apps, which you adopted last year. Did the whole company go to Gmail?

We license the whole suite for 18,000 accounts. On that, there’s Google docs, and spreadsheets, and presentation, and chat, and IM, and video – all that’s available for everyone. The only thing that we forced everyone onto and had to do a weekend cut over for was calendar. At the time, there wasn’t cal-dev support, and interoperability between calendaring systems, and you don’t want to maintain two calendars because you’ll miss every meeting – plus drive all your admins crazy. So, that was the forced cutover that was the big event. That was October 2008.

Everybody went home on Friday, we turned the calendaring system to read-only and then migrated 2.7 million records into Google. People came to work on Monday morning and I was like, boy, this is going to be a rough Monday. And we only had 460 calendar calls. That was fantastic! I mean, how could you touch 18,000 people and only get 460 calls? So, that was, I thought, a true measure of this is a good thing.

We have about 2,000 people on e-mail. The reason that we don’t have the rest on e-mail is Google has delayed how to handle larger attachments. There’s a 25 Megabyte limit. We’re now moving forward with a voluntary opt-in program so people can move – because for e-mail you don’t have to move everybody at once. You can do server side, or client side migrations, and you can move one person, or 10,000 people.

The rate of innovation at Google is – well I mean, the Oracle, SAP and Microsoft product cycle is five years; Google’s product cycle is five days. It’s incremental. In five days you’re not going to be able to cancel your Microsoft Office license, but in five years, you won’t have Microsoft Office.

I spent $10 million making my purchasing system usable on SAP. I spent $10,000 making it usable on my iPhone. You do the math.

What benefits have you seen so far?

It fits into the mobility paradigm very well. Browser-based apps are getting better and better. You can deliver more of that experience and get mobility and simplicity. Because they’re not coming behind your firewall, you don’t have to VPN in. You have a secure session to Google, and you can access your information anywhere, anytime from any device. You don’t have to be on a corporate device, you don’t have to have a VPN fob. And it works on your iPhone, your Blackberry, your laptop, anywhere, anytime. So, fabulous. That would be the thing that people talk about the most.

The second is the integration of all the different tools. If you’re a multi-modal communicator, it is the best experience and the best set of tools and it all works, seamlessly, easy, together. So, that would be the second thing.

Then, the third thing is, $50 a year. That’s it! You don’t have to go to lunch with your sales rep. You don’t even have to know your sales rep. Your contract will fit in your billfold. You don’t need a three-ring binder for it, or a battery of attorneys to tell you what the hell it means. I mean, I haven’t read the Microsoft Licensing Agreement lately, but when they came out with the how’s and the this’s and the that’s, I mean, enterprise assurance, you’d have to be in like a two and a-half hour meeting to get briefed on what you’re buying. Two and a-half hours. And I have a PhD. It’s like, could you make this more complicated? Probably not. Google, $50. And it’s the same $50 from 61 features ago. Sixty-one new products, YouTube for the enterprise, video conferencing. Now, what software company, Microsoft, SAP, or Oracle, would give you 61 new things with no deployment, and no price increase? Introduce me to that software company. They don’t exist. Goggle has an absolutely radical, wonderful – it’s an IT dream come true. I don’t know why there aren’t IT executives all across America marching in the streets, burning their software licenses and saying, “let my people go.” I mean, this is the promised land. I don’t know how it could get any better.

Is that just Google, or are you learning things from this experience with Google that you would apply to other types of applications?

Oh, well, I’m totally revolutionizing the sales part of the business with Salesforce.com. And I would love to revolutionize my HR system with Workday, but I couldn’t get my HR person on board with it. But look at Workday, look at Salesforce.com, and look at Google. Revolutionary. It’s going to gut the whole industry.

Is there more coming for other areas of the business?

Oh, definitely. Just look at iPhone apps. That’s another important paradigm that’s happening: what I call snackable apps. We spent 30 years figuring out how to get 200 drop-down menus with 3,000 features. And a whole industry of training and manuals. And now we’re delivering single-function apps that require no training. And they’re absolutely fantastic. I hooked SAP up to my iPhone for shopping cart approvals; 30 percent of all of our approvals are now done on iPhones into SAP because I stripped away all of that complexity that’s in the SAP mySRM. I spent $10 million making my purchasing system usable on SAP. I spent $10,000 making it usable on my iPhone. You do the math. And, which would you rather do? Would you rather approve the shopping cart on your iPhone? Or would you rather log in, literally, you can answer three e-mails by the time it loads all the tabs and screens and all the pieces, and then try to remember behind which of these mystery tabs is my answer. It’s like playing a game of Jeopardy every time. Is this it? Is this it? Is this where I go? Oh, look, thank God I found it. It’s like a treasure map. And that’s just so you can buy something. I mean, come on.

There are many things happening here that are good for users, good for the IT profession, good for business. It’s just good, good, good. You know, what’s slowing this adoption are all the priests of the past – all the preservationists. All the interests that are built up around the edifice that is enterprise software…. Cloud computing is a dream come true.

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Todd Pierce is senior vice president and CIO of Genentech, the $13,418 million San Francisco biotech company that this year became a wholly owned subsidiary of Roche. He joined Genentech in May 2002. Pierce’s IT leadership experience spans a broad range of industries, including commercial software products, health insurance, clinical care and government. Prior to joining Genentech, he served as CIO and Director of Information Systems for the Santa Clara County Social Services Agency. Pierce holds a B.A. in Economics and Finance from Austin College and a M.A. in Health Policy and Administration from the University of California, Berkeley.

Great Communicators: Genentech CIO Todd Pierce

This is the second in a series.

Todd Pierce

Todd Pierce

Great communicators focus on the perspectives, priorities and frames of reference of the people they seek to communicate with. At Genentech, that means science. Todd Pierce, SVP and CIO at Genentech, views effective communication as the “circulatory system” of business. Everything he does takes that into account.

Being in the drug discovery/drug development business, Genentech runs on quickly gathering large volumes of information and analyzing it effectively. With 30-40 clinical trials going on at any given time, that’s a lot of information.

In addition to supporting Genentech’s ongoing clinical trials, Pierce is focused on executing the organizational design and 18-month roadmap that are part of Genentech’s recent merger with Swiss biotech giant Roche. The combined organization will move to one set of global systems – which will require 140 integration projects, among other things.

Pierce is also an early adopter of innovative new technologies. In part one of our interview, we discuss how he conveys the benefits of emerging technologies – such as iPhones, Google Apps and social networking – and how he engenders trust in business colleagues and passion in his staff. In part two, we’ll discuss in more detail the decisions around the company’s early adoption of the iPhone and Google Apps.

Abbie Lundberg: When you think about business/technology alignment, where does effective communication fit in?

Todd Pierce: I think of communication as the circulatory system – everything flows around and is dependent upon it. You can’t be aligned if you’re not listening and don’t have a deep understanding of what the business needs and wants, and where it’s going, and what role technology can play in that. You have to be in dialogue. It’s not just one side telling the other side; it’s both sides collaborating to figure out where do we want to be, and how to get there most effectively.

A lot of companies have trouble with that because they often don’t have a common language to communicate around complex technology issues.

That’s right. You have to have a common language, and people are incredibly busy, so you can’t get them up on the IT language; you have to speak in the language that’s relevant to them. That’s where a lot of communication breaks down.

It’s been very important for me in my career to learn as much as possible about the business: what’s important; how the different pieces work. At Genentech, we help employees understand that by having patients come and talk about products, or having scientists come talk about how we discover them, or researchers and clinicians on how we develop them. Every meeting that we have [in IT], we have some communication from the business about the business in the language of the business to keep us immersed in that.

Patients come in several times a year. They speak very personally about what our product has meant to them, but they also speak very honestly about what missing or what’s left to be done. That’s something you don’t get in the typical corporate communication.

Much of IT is complex and specialized. A lot of things must be taken on faith. How have you built trust with your business colleagues so they’ll trust you to do the right thing and look out for their interests?

The thing that builds the most trust is transparency and accountability. Even when we’re talking about something they may not understand, or they’re thinking, “wow, that sure is a lot of money; are you sure we need to do that?” we need to be very clear about what it is we’re doing and what we’re going to be accountable for – how we’re going measure our effectiveness.

Second, as an internal service, we have to put pressure on ourselves just like a market would, to continually up our game. It builds credibility and confidence from the business when they see us doing that.

As part of this merger, we’ll be supporting an additional 4,000 people in Genentech with 20 percent fewer resources. So we’ve come up with a series of things to improve our core processes. For example, we said, let’s eliminate 30 percent of all the calls to our service desk. We had no idea how we were going to do it, but we set up a contest and formed teams [to tackle the problem]. We may not actually achieve the goal, but by setting the goal and challenging ourselves, the business sees that we’re always trying to improve our performance. Seeing us do that and seeing our performance improve builds confidence and trust.

What can individual team members do to build that trust all the way through the organization?

Trust is created through every contact and every experience people have with IT. It’s things like, “Does my laptop work?” “Is it easy to connect to the network?” “Are all of my expectations being met without me having to actively engage with the IT department?” It’s constantly staying in touch with users’ expectations and how we’re doing, and really being honest with ourselves about our performance — being self-aware both individually and collectively about where we’re not meeting people’s expectations and what can we do about that.

Where do communications most often break down within the business ecosystem?

You want the distance between the creators of information and the consumers of information to be as short as possible, because then you can make sure that people really are using the information and getting value out of it. Things break down when there are a lot of intermediaries, for example, when corporate functions in complex organizations decide to implement something that imposes on other people, and IT gets in the middle of that. I try to make sure we are always thinking about the ultimate end user rather than the entities that are ordering [a new process] or dictating it. That end user often gets lost, so you build systems that people hate to use or find hard to use, and ultimately the business doesn’t get the value out of it.

Genentech has been an early adopter of some consumer technologies that other enterprises have been reluctant to adopt, such as iPhones and Google Apps. How did you get to yes so quickly?

Getting to yes involves having good controlled experiments. I told my staff, “Let’s identify risk and manage it; don’t hide behind it.” When the iPhone came out, the concern was that it was a consumer product, not an enterprise product, and that it could compromise our information, or it would be hard to manage.… All the arguments about why it wouldn’t work or why it might be a bad idea came up. So I challenged my team to take all of our fears and concerns and test them – to actually go out and get the information.

Within a week of iPhones being available, we had 100 of them in a test. We had the IT people list out all the risks and concerns and then start solving them and working with the vendors to address them. I’ve found that to be very helpful, because it brings along all the stakeholders (legal, IT infrastructure, support, suppliers), getting them around the table, figuring out what the issues are, then running the trial and having some exit criteria that say if we achieve these end points, then we’ll go to the next level – much like we do with our core business of drug development.

You’ve developed an internal social network called Gene Pool. Why did you invest in this – what’s the business value?

The key value is how to continue to have that small company feel inside of a big company. Genentech has grown 3x since I’ve been here. In small companies, you feel like you know everyone, you can talk to anyone and get the information you need.… We all go to the same cafeteria and have a sense of connection and ownership. These informal networks are how creativity and energy and vitality exist in organizations.

When you scale up and you have 50 buildings, and we’re hiring 100 new people every week, you’re not going to have those relationships, nor do you have the capacity to find them and build them fast enough. Social networking blows all those limitations out. It’s all about how can you effectively scale these informal networks.

What barriers did you have to overcome?

The key barrier for that kind of technology is the management hierarchy. Management doesn’t see the need for it. They have their chain of command and their processes to get the information they need or do the work that they need to do. My barrier in that case was just how not to get senior management involved in the decision. Because it’s not for them. So I said, you don’t get this, and you don’t need to get this, and I’m not building it for you. This is for the front-line employee, who doesn’t have the hierarchy and everyone sending them status reports and aligning their information sharing around whatever your questions or needs are.

So you were very explicit about that upfront.

Oh yeah – absolutely. It was kind of an epiphany. The company was spending a lot of time and emotional energy thinking about how do we preserve the culture and scale the company. And I thought, this is perfect! You know, “voila!” But then, whenever I presented [the idea of social networking] to the executive committee, they all had this puzzled look on their faces, like, why do we need this? The epiphany was, “You don’t need this, you’re absolutely right, and I’m not here to convince you that you need it, because you have all the information you need, and if you don’t, you have a hierarchy that will help you go get it. But most employees who are just joining the company or haven’t been here very long don’t have those networks, so how can we build those effectively?”

Why the name Gene Pool?

We were trying to figure out how to explain what this was. If you’re not familiar with it, how do you explain it? We were brainstorming a whole number of things. We didn’t want a cutesy name that didn’t mean anything, you know, some kind of typical corporate branding thing, and a long-term employee said, “oh, it’s like a gene pool: we all put our genes into the pool, and the best things come out. That’s how we grow and evolve and create.” And the minute they said it, the whole room said, “That’s it!” That totally explains why you want to play – you want to get your genes in the gene pool. It’s that bringing together of different ideas, diversity of genes, that will build the best organism.

We also wanted to have this be not another corporate system. There’s application fatigue. We wanted people to think of it not as another beast you’re going to have to feed, but this is actually going to work for you.

What are people doing with it that’s valuable?

It runs the gamut, which just shows you how creative people are and how many communication needs there are within corporations. One of our most effective executive leaders who has 3,500 people in his organization publishes a blog every two weeks. People can write back, respond and interact with him. That just wouldn’t be possible in any other way. Most top executives are in a room with the same 10 people 80 percent of the time. This gives great access and a way to have dialogue that people are comfortable using. He gets more interactivity there than he would in a town hall meeting or if he just sent out an e-mail.

Then there are work groups – dynamic work groups being able to come together, share information, work on problems, publish that and make it searchable and accessible. Think about how much valuable work is redone and lost in organizations.

It’s incredibly low cost – low cost to implement, low cost to operate. It doesn’t have all the overhead that running a big intranet site does with the same amount of content. Every part of the business is using it for communication and collaboration needs that aren’t met by the core applications.

The precursor to this was our intranet, which had 30,000 pages and you couldn’t find anything. It wasn’t clear who owned what, and what was authoritative versus brainstorming. Where it would break down was in the bureaucracy. You know what it takes to sustain a publication – you need a lot of reporters and editors and reviewers; it requires a lot to keep the quality up. What’s nice about Gene Pool is it’s clear who owns information, where it’s coming from, and whether it’s authoritative. You can subscribe to it. It’s faster and easier than what you can do with most of your intranet site beyond the homepage and about two links off the homepage.

You’ve talked about how important it is for people to have a sense of passion for their work. How do you engender that in your staff?

This is a constant thing. I tell everyone in my organization I want there to be three things true about everyone here:

First is to love what you do – I don’t think anything great or meaningful ever comes from people who don’t have passion or love what they do.

Second, be good at it – and that requires practice and constant learning.

And the third is be easy to work with – have a good user interface.

Our employee development accentuates all three of those. We have three centers of development: head, heart and body, and how do things get integrated and move from your head to your heart to your body. Someone has an idea, and it ties into their motivation, and then they have a practice to constantly improve; that’s how people grow and change.

We have a year-long development program that’s open to all staff. They meet eight times a year in small learning communities of four or so people. In each of those meetings, they do a head-heart-body check in…. This gives people the language, cultivates their sense of self-awareness, and gives them not only permission but the impetus to do something about it.

I do a three-day offsite with all of my managers, and part of that is finding out, what do they really care about? What do they really love doing? And giving them the assignment to get more of that into their jobs.

There are multiple things we do to tap into that emotional energy. The great thing about emotional energy is it’s one of most renewable resources we have, so you need to constantly renew, reward, recognize, cultivate it.

Sidebar: Seven Secrets to Better Communication

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Todd Pierce is senior vice president and CIO of Genentech, the $13,418 million San Francisco biotech company that this year became a wholly owned subsidiary of Roche. He joined Genentech in May 2002. Pierce’s IT leadership experience spans a broad range of industries, including commercial software products, health insurance, clinical care and government. Prior to joining Genentech, he served as CIO and Director of Information Systems for the Santa Clara County Social Services Agency. Pierce holds a B.A. in Economics and Finance from Austin College and a M.A. in Health Policy and Administration from the University of California, Berkeley.